Wednesday, February 10, 2010

Car Club Coats.

The dark subject of car club coats comes up all the time...it appears to be like alchemy (turning lead into gold for you plebs) and nobody shares any info about the subject.

Car clubs will get some made and then they will not tell anybody else who does it.

Any company that make "football" varsity coats can make the things.

I happen to believe Delong is the best, even after the original company went out of business and now that they are a new "Delong."

I work in a high school (yes, fear for the children) and see all brands of varsity coats...some of them are horrid...they are very thin wool, not sewn very well, and the colors are drab.

Below are some basics that many of you will want to know about "car club coats."

First off, this is a jacket. An "Ike Jacket" or "Slash Pocket Jacket."


It is not the wool coat most people ask about. Dickies makes them and so does Red Cap. The Dickies ones tend to run shorter in the sleeves and tighter all around, Red Cap is longer in the sleeves and more generous in size (like a work coat should be.) I am talking about "regulars" and not "longs", you can get "longs" from both companies but be careful getting any "longs" in jackets or coats from any of the companies I am talking about because they always seem "too long."

Personally I prefer Red Cap and you can get them cheap from online sites.

Anybody can get patches or embroidery done on them like the one above.

Next up is the Varsity Jacket.

This one is an all leather So-Cal Speed Shop coat, but it is in the same cut and style of pretty much every varsity coat ever made for your favorite football teams.

Usually a varsity coat is wool with leather or naugahyde sleeves.

The sleeve on a varsity jacket are what they call "set in" or traditional sleeves.

I have seen very few clubs use that type of sleeve.

The collar on almost every varsity coat is a "knit stand up collar." When you get that collar you get the matching cuff that almost everyone is used to seeing on this type of coat...unless you live in a cave and did not go to high school.


Most of the car clubs use the "finger tip coat" used by *gasp* cheerleaders and such. They can often be ordered with cute little hoods but I have yet to see some hot rod hoodlums order any hoods...

As you can see it is a longer coat with a finished bottom and not the knit bottom of the classic varsity jacket shown above.

Most car clubs seem to be using the "Whitting Style" collar and cuffs. They look similar to the classic stand up at first glance but the material rolls over. The collar and cuffs are indeed both rolled when you order this as shown in the pics below.



This is a more old fashioned look and the coolest cuff/collar combo to me in general.

You have the same stripe options you would on a varsity.

They can be one color or two, one stripe, two stripes, and so on. You can have no stripe at all if you want...but that is kind of a waste on a Witten because you are paying more for it and they look cool with the stripes to me...but hey, do what you want to do.


The next coat has a "Byron Collar," and many clubs use this too.

It is a traditional pointed collar like on a shirt.

You can get knit sleeves with a Byron but they look odd.

You will want to opt for the button cuff when you get a Byron.

That is a finished slashed shirt style cuff with a single snap, just like your dress shirts or actually more like your pearl snap western shirts.

I have never heard of more than one snap on the cuff.




One thing you might have noticed is how the sleeves hang a bit lower on all the coats I have shown so far than on a typical varsity. That is because most of my coats have "Ragland Sleeves."

This too me is one of the more important aspects of these coats, so read on!


You can see above how the Ragland is cut, it swoops down more and is a more vintage and proper look for a car club coat (in the opinion of most) but I have seen a few clubs use the "set it."

It is a matter of taste, but the "set in sleeves" make the coats look too much like their football counterparts.


This is my clubs coat...embroidery on the back instead of a patch, Ragland sleeves, whitting collar/cuffs, and a black base color for the collar/cuffs.

The black base color on the collar and cuffs was pretty standard in the good old days and a look a bunch of clubs go for today.



The Byron Collar and Snap Cuffs look really good in just black....

*Edit/Note: This coat is powder blue and black and was for a girl car club...I got asked about it the other day so now ya know!


The Black and Gray version of this is similar to the Pharoahs in that famous movie with the yellow 32 coupe. The Pharoahs actually had Witten Collars in the movie.

If you look at old car mags though you see the black and gray usually with a Byron collar and it was a very popular combo from the 40's to the 50's.

Timeless I guess you would say...




One last things, most of the coats I had made have the naugahyde material around the pockets.

If you get wool pockets and use them they wear out fast, get dirty, and the material gets those little balls or pills on them.

They just don't hold up as well, so get the durable naugy especially if you put your hands in your pockets often!





5 comments:

Walt said...

Thanks for the rundown on coats. This is very helpful.

Jon said...

Great info.

So what do you think of Rennoc?
http://www.rennoc.com/rennoc/index.html

or Settlemier's?
http://www.settlemiersjackets.com/jacketstyles.html

Thanks

Chris said...

Great!

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Andrew pittard said...

I need your help ordering a jacket!!